Minneapolis surplus resale • 2026-09-30
Seven-day closing window: September 30–October 6, 2026 inclusive. Near-term priority: September 30 and October 1. Bound at 2026-09-30T08:00:43.329860-05:00; generated Sep 30, 08:13:29 AM CDT. All closing times Central; bids and extended closes can change.
Tax-exempt resale: 0% sales tax modeled for all sources. GSA and MN Bid premium is 0%; other published auction-specific premiums are shown. No bids or purchases were placed. This is bounded screening, not exhaustive seven-day appraisal.
1. Ready to bid — 0
No selected lot passed all evidence requirements. This is not a finding of zero opportunities. Incomplete research is retained below rather than falsely rejected.
2. Promising leads — verification needed
Grouped by source; ordered by close urgency within each source. Not approved buys — verification needed. Open the canonical lot to recheck the bid immediately before any decision. Prices below are bid snapshots, not all-in costs.
Auction Masters — 2 leads
| Specific lot | Bid snapshot | Close (Central) | Location and handling | Evidence or upside | Missing check or reason | Next action |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Spot On POS System, 6 Terminals, Touch Screens, Card Readers, Printers and Related Source ID 26254742 • Lot 77 | $2.00 Current Next permitted: $3.00 Checked Sep 30, 08:09:48 AM CDT | Oct 05, 01:19:00 PM CDT Scheduled; extensions possible | 1114 American Blvd West, Bloomington, MN 55420 Local pickup Published premium 18%. Tax 0%. Collection, packing and downstream resale shipping must be costed. | Low-entry commercial POS components; transferability and actual included hardware are unresolved. Two actual photos reviewed: at least three powered SpotOn touchscreens across the views, printers, card readers and cash-drawer hardware. Title advertises six terminals; photos do not independently prove six complete systems, licensed transfer or successful transactions. No original shipping boxes shown. | Valuation not established. Inventory exact terminal/printer/reader models and quantities; verify ownership, account release, factory reset, reusable software and payment-processor transfer restrictions. No resale value assigned to locked hardware. Verify dimensions/weight, upstairs access, disconnection permission, vehicle/labor costs and downstream packing. | Ask seller and SpotOn whether hardware can be transferred or reused; request all six serial/model labels and tested inventory. Inspect Oct 5, 9 AM–noon, then cost collection and resale packing. |
| Tobias IQ150 Densitometer Source ID 26379784 • Lot 6 | $1.00 Current Next permitted: $2.00 Checked Sep 30, 08:09:48 AM CDT | Oct 06, 01:04:00 PM CDT Scheduled; extensions possible | 8575 Central Ave NE, Blaine, MN 55434 Local pickup Published premium 18%. Tax 0%. Collection, packing and downstream resale shipping must be costed. | Compact specialty print-measurement instrument in a fitted case with power supply and paperwork. Both current photos reviewed: IQ150/Tobias labeling on instrument and manual, fitted soft case, power adapter/cable and paperwork. Display dark; no calibration/readout test shown. Yellowed/scuffed housing; completeness of calibration references and battery condition unknown. | Valuation not established. Need power-up and calibrated density/reference reading, optics condition, battery/charger check and exact accessory inventory. Obtain exact used IQ150 priced comps, weight/dimensions, vehicle/collection costs and downstream protective packing. | Ask for functional/calibration evidence and exact included references; inspect Oct 6, 9 AM–noon. Confirm Oct 7 pickup capacity and cost before assigning resale value. |
MN Bid — 3 leads
| Specific lot | Bid snapshot | Close (Central) | Location and handling | Evidence or upside | Missing check or reason | Next action |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 60 - CISCO 8845 PHONES Source ID 16201 | $50.00 Current Price Next permitted: $55.00 Checked Sep 30, 08:09:47 AM CDT | Oct 01, 10:10:00 AM CDT Scheduled; extensions possible | 5005 Minnetonka Blvd, Saint Louis Park, MN, 55436 Local pickup Published premium 0%. Tax 0%. Collection, packing and downstream resale shipping must be costed. | Bulk video phones; count, firmware/reset and tested working count unresolved. Seller describes 60 used Cisco 8845 phones, good-to-fair, with handsets/cables and CUCM 14+ compatibility. Both current actual photos reviewed: sample phone and loose phones in a carton. Not proof of 60 complete working phones. Exact CP-8845-K9-VSRF like-new VoIP Supply dealer ASK reopened at $139.99 each; not a sold price or a valuation of this bulk lot. VoIP Supply exact 8845 dealer page: live $139.99 refurbished/like-new asking price, CP-8845-K9-VSRF. NOT a realized sale and not applicable to 60 untested units. No numerical condition-adjusted resale basis established; no quantity multiplication. | Valuation not established for this lot. Verify count, exact part numbers/enterprise versus MPP firmware, factory reset/provisioning eligibility, camera/display/PoE operation, stands, handsets/cables and failure rate. Do not multiply the dealer ask by the unverified 60 count. Need carton count/total weight, loading and vehicle capacity, pickup deadline/cost, testing effort and later parcel packing/shipping. | Request inventory/model-label photos and sample PoE/registration tests; verify transfer/reset permissions and contents. Obtain local collection and resale packing costs, then compare actual used enterprise-firmware bulk pricing, discounted from tested like-new retail asks. |
| LIKE NEW, LOT OF CERTIFIED POWER CONTROL SYSTEMS PLOW CONTROLS Source ID 16239 | $50.00 Starting Price Next permitted: $50.00 Checked Sep 30, 08:09:47 AM CDT Reserve $150; not met | Oct 02, 10:45:00 AM CDT Scheduled; extensions possible | 8635 West Point Douglas Road S, Cottage Grove, MN, 55016 Local pickup Published premium 0%. Tax 0%. Collection, packing and downstream resale shipping must be costed. | Specialty control components; removed used despite NEW field. $150 reserve. Six current actual photos reviewed: CPC red/yellow/blue modules, three joysticks, panel, dark display and tangled removed wiring. Seller says worked when uninstalled; no current powered test. Like-new wording does not establish unused condition. Stated reserve $150; no assumed complete-system quantity/value. | Valuation not established. Verify exact module/display part numbers, software/vehicle compatibility, wiring continuity, connectors and bench operation. Reconcile NEW condition field with removed-used description. Confirm $150 reserve, total dimensions/weight, pickup deadline, suitable vehicle/help/cost and downstream protective packing/shipping. | Request readable module labels, removal history, wiring diagram and a powered bench-test video. Obtain exact used-part comps and a costed collection/packing plan before considering any bid. |
| 8 - 2023 GAMBER JOHNSON 7160-0790-03 DOCKING STATIONS Source ID 16264 | $50.00 Starting Price Next permitted: $50.00 Checked Sep 30, 08:09:47 AM CDT Reserve $600; not met | Oct 06, 10:30:00 AM CDT Scheduled; extensions possible | Surplus Services, 5420 Rice Creek Parkway, Arden Hills, MN, 55112 Local pickup Published premium 0%. Tax 0%. Collection, packing and downstream resale shipping must be costed. | Eight stated 2023 Getac S410 docking stations; readable exact model offers a focused commercial-electronics follow-up. Seven actual photos reviewed: Gamber-Johnson 7160-0790-03 Rev P labels and multiple docks with Getac power adapters, bagged parts and boxes. Havis-branded reused cartons do not mean new Havis equipment. Photos do not individually document all eight working units or all keys/mounting hardware. Seller says working when removed; no current test. | Valuation not established. Reserve $600 is not met; $50 opening is not an obtainable purchase assumption. Verify all eight exact model/serials, laptop compatibility, connectors, power adapters, keys, mounting parts and bench tests. Need used exact-model comps, packed weight/dimensions, pickup deadline, vehicle/help and collection plus downstream packing costs. | Request eight-unit inventory and representative Getac S410 docking/power/port test; confirm reserve, release deadline and pickup appointment. Price the verified configuration, not carton count. |
HGP — national exception — 1 leads
| Specific lot | Bid snapshot | Close (Central) | Location and handling | Evidence or upside | Missing check or reason | Next action |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Agilent 4294A Precision Impedance Analyzer Source ID 30d9d11b-118a-48d9-bd76-b4b3014e697e • Lot 234 | $2,300.00 Current Next permitted: $2,400.00 Checked Sep 30, 08:09:48 AM CDT | Sep 30, 11:26:40 AM CDT Scheduled; extensions possible | 2581 Junction Ave., San Jose, CA 95134 Parcel shipment — proposed specialist packing, weight/quote unverified Published premium 19%. Tax 0%. Collection, packing and downstream resale shipping must be costed. | Specific 40 Hz–110 MHz impedance analyzer; valuable test-equipment category, no price valuation established. Five actual photos plus rendered lot page reviewed: 4294A front label, serial JP2KG00400 and HIT 2587620 agree with description. Screen dark, scuffs on casing; no powered test. Unit loose on wire rack; another instrument underneath is not assumed included. No test fixture, calibration kit or packing verified. | Valuation not established. Need power-on/self-test, impedance measurement against standards, installed options and fixture/accessory inventory; exact-condition priced comps. Verify net/packed weight and dimensions, protective case/foam and realistic insured third-party pickup/parcel quote. Not freight-ready. | Request self-test/measurement video and rear/options labels. Ask listed Bay Area packing agent to confirm removal and packed weight; if parcel unsuitable, require verified secured freight packaging and costed carrier plan before reassessment. |
K-BID — 3 leads
| Specific lot | Bid snapshot | Close (Central) | Location and handling | Evidence or upside | Missing check or reason | Next action |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Olympus Microscope (628113) Source ID 66498/8ET • Lot 8ET | $21.00 Current Next permitted: $22.00 Checked Sep 30, 08:09:47 AM CDT | Sep 30, 07:09:00 PM CDT Scheduled; extensions possible | 883 29th Ave SE, Minneapolis, MN 55414 Local pickup Published premium 15%. Tax 0%. Collection, packing and downstream resale shipping must be costed. | Olympus CHT binocular microscope; low-entry local optical equipment worth an inspection. Four actual photos reviewed: rear model CHT, binocular head, objective turret, stage and mains cord. No illuminated specimen image or objective specification verification. Loose/unboxed; seller explicitly untested/as-is and unsure of missing/broken parts. Separate 9ET gallery also reviewed; no combined-unit valuation used. | Valuation not established. Verify serial, objective magnifications/condition, eyepieces, condenser, focus/stage travel and illumination. Need exact-condition CHT used comps, optics cleaning/repair assessment, weight/dimensions, collection vehicle/help/cost and shock-protective resale packing. | Request same-day inspection or illuminated specimen/focus video before tonight’s close; photograph objective labels and check fungus/delamination. Cost collection and protective packing before any bid. |
| Spectrophotometer (628293) Thermo Scientific Source ID 66498/41ET • Lot 41ET | $277.86 Current Next permitted: $302.86 Checked Sep 30, 08:09:47 AM CDT | Sep 30, 07:39:00 PM CDT Scheduled; extensions possible | 883 29th Ave SE, Minneapolis, MN 55414 Local pickup Published premium 15%. Tax 0%. Collection, packing and downstream resale shipping must be costed. | Compact Thermo spectrophotometer; NanoDrop 2000/2000c-family installation label visible, exact variant unresolved. Four actual photos reviewed: Thermo casing, lift-arm/pedestal, USB and 12 V DC connection, power supply/cord bundle. Rear sticker is a NanoDrop 2000/2000c software installation guide, not proof of exact model. No computer/software license, calibration or powered measurement shown. Seller explicitly untested/as-is. | Valuation not established. Confirm exact model/serial and 2000 versus 2000c configuration, pedestal/optics condition, software/PC compatibility and blank/reference measurement. Need exact-condition priced comps, packed weight/dimensions and collection plus downstream protective shipping costs. | Ask ReUse staff for data plate and a permitted inspection/test before tonight’s close. Verify software availability and optical performance; then obtain exact-variant comps and cost local pickup/packing. |
| Bosch GRL800-20HV Rotary Laser Level Kit With Tripod Source ID 66737/6 • Lot 6 | $61.00 Current Next permitted: $62.00 Checked Sep 30, 08:09:47 AM CDT | Oct 01, 07:10:00 PM CDT Scheduled; extensions possible | 1000 Pennsylvania Ave South, Golden Valley, MN 55426 Local pickup Published premium 15%. Tax 0%. Collection, packing and downstream resale shipping must be costed. | Actual cased laser kit and tripod; calibration/accessory checks needed. Five current actual photos reviewed: Bosch GRL800-20HV laser, fitted case, tripod, receiver and mounting pieces. Plate reads 3601K61M10, 06/2019, serial 906101391; seller description transcribes part/serial differently. Dust/scuffs; no powered/calibration test. Native exact-lot HTML and full gallery succeeded; browser visual confirmation not obtained for K-BID this run. | Valuation not established. Listing transcription says 3601K61N10 and serial 90610391; photo reads 3601K61M10 and 906101391. Resolve these discrepancies. Need laser/receiver operation, leveling accuracy/calibration, battery-compartment corrosion and accessory inventory checks. Obtain packed dimensions/weight, collection vehicle/help/cost and later case/tripod packing/shipping costs. | Arrange inspection or seller video plus readable label and battery-compartment photos; verify receiver/accessories and calibration. Obtain exact-condition used-kit prices and collection/outbound packing costs before bidding. |
Lot-specific removal / premium evidence
Spot On POS System, 6 Terminals, Touch Screens, Card Readers, Printers and Related — terms and handling
Published fee: 18% below $10,000; 13% at $10,000 and above. Removal Oct 6, 10 AM–6 PM, sign-up required. Lot 77 is in the upstairs lot-number range. Buyer handles disassembly/removal; auctioneer does not load, transport or ship. Vehicle/help/packing costs unverified.
Canonical lot / linked terms. This is not a transport quote or loading booking. Missing wrap alone does not disqualify local collection; vehicle capacity, weight, loading permission, deadline and cost still require confirmation.
Tobias IQ150 Densitometer — terms and handling
18% fee below $10,000; 13% at $10,000 and above. Inspection Oct 6, 9 AM–noon; removal Oct 7, 10 AM–6 PM, sign-up required. Auction Masters does not load, transport or ship; buyer supplies suitable vehicle/help/packing. All items as-is.
Canonical lot / linked terms. This is not a transport quote or loading booking. Missing wrap alone does not disqualify local collection; vehicle capacity, weight, loading permission, deadline and cost still require confirmation.
Agilent 4294A Precision Impedance Analyzer — terms and handling
19% buyer premium. San Jose removal Oct 5–27. Buyer/approved agent responsible for removal and packing; HGP does not pack or ship. Shipping tab lists Move It, Navis Pack & Ship Bay Area and other agents; no quote or booking obtained.
Canonical lot / linked terms. This is not a transport quote or loading booking. Missing wrap alone does not disqualify local collection; vehicle capacity, weight, loading permission, deadline and cost still require confirmation.
Olympus Microscope (628113) — terms and handling
15% buyer premium (published $1,500 cap). Appointment removal Oct 1–3, 10 AM–3 PM; stated final deadline Oct 3 at 4 PM. Confirm a scheduled slot, do not rely on later generic storage wording. Loading docks/forklifts available; hand-loading only under 100 lb. Standard help usually included, but $75/hour may apply to preparation, packing or complex loading. Buyer supplies vehicle/packing; shipping preparation available by arrangement, not quoted. ST3 resale exemption must be on file.
Canonical lot / linked terms. This is not a transport quote or loading booking. Missing wrap alone does not disqualify local collection; vehicle capacity, weight, loading permission, deadline and cost still require confirmation.
Spectrophotometer (628293) Thermo Scientific — terms and handling
15% buyer premium (published $1,500 cap). Appointment removal Oct 1–3, 10 AM–3 PM; stated final deadline Oct 3 at 4 PM. Confirm a scheduled slot, do not rely on later generic storage wording. Loading docks/forklifts available; hand-loading only under 100 lb. Standard help usually included, but $75/hour may apply to preparation, packing or complex loading. Buyer supplies vehicle/packing; shipping preparation available by arrangement, not quoted. ST3 resale exemption must be on file.
Canonical lot / linked terms. This is not a transport quote or loading booking. Missing wrap alone does not disqualify local collection; vehicle capacity, weight, loading permission, deadline and cost still require confirmation.
Bosch GRL800-20HV Rotary Laser Level Kit With Tripod — terms and handling
15% buyer premium. Inspection by appointment. Removal Oct 3, 10 AM–4 PM or Oct 6, 5–8 PM, by appointment; no alternate days guaranteed. Buyer must bring suitable vehicle/tools/help. Shipping requests are possible but unquoted; local pickup is the modeled intended handling mode.
Canonical lot / linked terms. This is not a transport quote or loading booking. Missing wrap alone does not disqualify local collection; vehicle capacity, weight, loading permission, deadline and cost still require confirmation.
60 - CISCO 8845 PHONES — terms and handling
0% buyer premium. City of St. Louis Park listing: good-to-fair used phones with handsets and cables; CUCM 14-and-above compatibility stated. Pickup deadline, loading support and release arrangements require confirmation with seller. Local collection selected; no assumed user vehicle or labor capacity.
Canonical lot / linked terms. This is not a transport quote or loading booking. Missing wrap alone does not disqualify local collection; vehicle capacity, weight, loading permission, deadline and cost still require confirmation.
LIKE NEW, LOT OF CERTIFIED POWER CONTROL SYSTEMS PLOW CONTROLS — terms and handling
0% buyer premium. Seller states worked when uninstalled and everything pictured included. Stated reserve $150: displayed $50 is not evidence of an obtainable award. Pickup deadline, release authorization and loading assistance not established.
Canonical lot / linked terms. This is not a transport quote or loading booking. Missing wrap alone does not disqualify local collection; vehicle capacity, weight, loading permission, deadline and cost still require confirmation.
8 - 2023 GAMBER JOHNSON 7160-0790-03 DOCKING STATIONS — terms and handling
0% buyer premium. Seller states reserve $600, working when removed. Pickup at Surplus Services, 5420 Rice Creek Parkway, Arden Hills. Removal deadline and loading assistance not established in inspected evidence; confirm with seller before bidding.
Canonical lot / linked terms. This is not a transport quote or loading booking. Missing wrap alone does not disqualify local collection; vehicle capacity, weight, loading permission, deadline and cost still require confirmation.
3. Rejected active lots — 0
No selected active lot had a sufficiently documented economic or handling failure to place in the rejected tier. Unverified condition, blocked comps and missing transport quotes are research limitations, not proof of failure.
Closed-lot retirement audit — 1 removed
Bosch 11316EVS Demolition Hammer (exact ID k_66372_172): Exact lot page now explicitly Closed; bidding ended Sept 29 at 7:49 PM CDT. Retired from active tables, regardless of later pickup dates. Checked Sep 30, 08:09:48 AM CDT. Excluded from active tables and the nine-lead count.
Prior-run refresh reconciliation
No earlier Sept 30 source report was found at invocation. All six Sept 29 afternoon leads reopened by exact ID: five retained, one closed retired. Four newly selected leads added. No silent dropped still-live seed. Spot On POS System, 6 Terminals, Touch Screens, Card Readers, Printers and Related: $2.00 to $2.00; retained lead, no promotion because testing, valuation and costed logistics remain unresolved. Agilent 4294A Precision Impedance Analyzer: $650.00 to $2,300.00; retained lead, no promotion because testing, valuation and costed logistics remain unresolved. Bosch GRL800-20HV Rotary Laser Level Kit With Tripod: $61.00 to $61.00; retained lead, no promotion because testing, valuation and costed logistics remain unresolved. 60 - CISCO 8845 PHONES: $50.00 to $50.00; retained lead, no promotion because testing, valuation and costed logistics remain unresolved. LIKE NEW, LOT OF CERTIFIED POWER CONTROL SYSTEMS PLOW CONTROLS: $50.00 to $50.00; retained lead, no promotion because testing, valuation and costed logistics remain unresolved.
Coverage and material evidence limits
- Auction Masters: 15 event details checked. Four active in-window events: Fergus Falls fitness Sept 30, Bloomington Oct 5, Blaine printing and Maple Grove trees Oct 6. Broad/targeted searches yielded 324 distinct lot IDs; not exhaustive pagination/appraisal. POS and Tobias lots rebound to current IDs, photos, bids, 18% applicable fee and actual local pickup addresses. Oct 6 included in filters, not just report labels.
- Grafe: 24 upcoming records returned. Three timed events inside the window: Niles IL Sept 30, Stillwater OK Oct 1 and Chicago IL Oct 6. Actual addresses screened; none Minneapolis-nearby. Stillwater OK is not Stillwater MN. No eligible event reached lot appraisal; this is geography screening, not proof lots fail economics.
- GSA Auctions — Minnesota: Date-filtered active-MN POST returned HTTP 400. Bounded all-dates active-MN POST succeeded (HTTP 200); all 5 returned lots close Oct 2 under local date filtering: Vantage vehicle, shuttle bus, AMC M810, mobile home and fire apparatus. No portable/lab lead established in this inventory; no individual rendered-close or condition appraisal completed. No invented rejection rows.
- MN Bid: 180 search records returned; 118 future Central closes inside the seven-day window. Cisco and CPC retained by exact product ID; Oct 6 Gamber-Johnson docks added, with reserve and full street address from agency address lines 1 AND 2. Three selected product responses refreshed at finalization; other inventory bounded triage, not exhaustive valuation.
- HGP — national exception: National parcel/freight exception applied. Event index and San Jose/Orange first catalog pages checked; catalog pagination incomplete. Agilent 4294A is the sole retained live HGP lead; exact clock, full five-photo gallery, 19% premium, San Jose address and Oct 5–27 removal rebound. Orange starts Sept 30 at 9 AM Central, after this run’s snapshot; no actionable lot row established. Zai Lab catalog browser explicitly showed bidding opens Oct 1 (closes Oct 2); no pre-opening lots reported as active. Later events close outside Oct 6 and are excluded by window. No freight-ready buy approved, not a finding that all HGP lots fail.
- K-BID: Six native list pages: today/tomorrow/unfiltered, pages 1–2. 100 event-close checks and 513 distinct featured in-window links; list filters alone were not accepted. Fully paginated 66498 Minneapolis (51 lots), 66700 Big Lake (107) and 66737 Golden Valley (200), totaling 358, with advertised counts reconciled. Two UMN lab leads added and Bosch laser retained. Other events only partial featured-lot discovery. Browser exact NanoDrop page returned 403; cookie-bearing native HTML and current full galleries succeeded. Closed Faribault hammer retired by exact page.
Fresh selected-lot snapshots were obtained around 8:09 AM Central. Actual-unit galleries were inspected, not stock photos. The report uses nine locally staged thumbnails; linked full galleries retain original source URLs. Agilent and Cisco received rendered-page visual review. K-BID NanoDrop browser view was blocked (403); native session HTML and downloaded actual gallery were available. Photos establish observable identity and condition only, never powered function, full quantity or entitlement to software.
Comparable research limits: exact Agilent and Bosch eBay requests returned 403; the Agilent TestMart page returned an application error despite HTTP 200; Brave flagged the search with 429, and an alternate Bing response did not establish a usable priced comp. Web-search attempts did not produce a defensible exact-condition resale basis. These are blocked/failed research paths, not sold comparables. An accessible exact Cisco dealer asking page was verified, but its refurbished/like-new condition does not support valuing a good-to-fair bulk lot without tests. New Olympus, Thermo, Tobias and docking-station leads reached identity/photo/terms review before the research cutoff; their priced comps and transport quotes remain unfinished. No inaccessible search snippet has been treated as valuation evidence.
Research was bounded to preserve finalization and publication time. No seller/packer was contacted, no inspection arranged and no shipping quote obtained. Reports do not assume the buyer owns a truck, can lift equipment, or receives free packing. GSA and Grafe limitations above are source coverage notes, not fabricated rejected lot rows.
Authoritative ready-to-bid economics and handling policy
For any later fully verified promotion: B = max(current/opening bid, $100); p = actual premium; L = required logistics; all-in = B × (1+p) + L, with 0% tax. Conservative resale R must satisfy both R/all-in ≥ 3.0 and R − all-in ≥ $250. Gross profit here excludes selling fees; any net sensitivity must be separate. Maximum all-in = min(R/3, R − $250); hammer ceiling = (maximum all-in − L)/(1+p). Hard Bid Cap must be rounded down along the source-valid sequence and compared with the live next permitted bid. Exactly 3.0× is Medium/edge: No bid advance; unmodeled costs can break the gate.
Local pickup uses supported actual collection costs, not automatic $500-per-pallet freight. Carrier freight requires verified secured packaging and $500 per pallet plus packing/handling. HGP national parcel/freight allowances remain mandatory when evaluating a fully verified plan; no numeric shipping assumption is used to approve today’s unquoted Agilent lead. Downstream eBay packing/shipping is not ignored merely because collection is local.